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Icedrake
Here's the link: Clicky!

Or are there any other good Quicktime file viewing alternatives?
rridgely
Quicktime alternative is good, it used to be included in the klite codec pack but I think they took it out. (I have a really old version of that installed on one of my desktops.)

On new installs I use VLC to view all media types that WMP wont play:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_vlc/
Icedrake
Thanks for the link Rridgley, but I already have VLC Media Player, but it doesn't play embedded Quicktime files does it?
rridgely
http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html
It supposedly can be done in firefox. The above link has instructions but I've never tried it.(if you do, let me know if it works. tongue.gif)

Quicktime alternative with Media Player Classic can play embedded videos in any browser though. I rarely watch videos in my browsers anymore.
Icedrake
Well, I just uninstalled Quicktime, because I almost never watch any Quicktime videos anyway. Quicktime is also kinda bloated. Thanks for the help Rridgely! happy.gif

P.S. Just tried viewing a Quicktime video and it didn't work. So I'm going for Quicktime Alternative.
Andavari
K-Lite Mega Codec Pack will still play QuickTime videos and practically everything else too both audio and video. wink.gif
Icedrake
I've decided install your suggestion Andavari, but I have a little problem. Which options should I check on the Install Componets list and which ones should I uncheck?

Nvm, I just installed the codec pack and tried viewing a Quicktime file online in Firefox. Firefox said "Additional plugins are needed view all files on this page" What should I do?
Anthony A
QUOTE (Andavari @ Apr 24 2008, 05:09 PM) *
K-Lite Mega Codec Pack will still play QuickTime videos and practically everything else too both audio and video. wink.gif


Might want to read this. http://msmvps.com/blogs/chrisl/archive/2004/07/04/9546.aspx
Icedrake
Ok, if those codec stuff is actually illegal, K-Lite Mega Codec Pack is going out my door.

I reinstalled VLC and it's letting me watch Quicktime videos online now. Thanks for the help everyone!
rridgely
QUOTE (Andavari @ Apr 24 2008, 04:09 PM) *
K-Lite Mega Codec Pack will still play QuickTime videos and practically everything else too both audio and video. wink.gif

Are you sure? I'm almost positive that they were pressed by apple to remove the quicktime part of their program. I have version 1.62 installed on one computer so I haven't tried the newer versions. tongue.gif
Coronagold
Woah, I'm getting dizzy reading this. blink.gif
I use K-Lite codecs, set to Windows Media Player being the 'default' instead of Classic Media Player. I still have WMP, QuickTime, and WinAmp installed. Those 3 are fine. 5 years ago I wouldv'e been tempted to install Real Alternative but I'm not sure it even existed then. Real Player was like the codec hog of choice back then by a lot of big media hosts. (Kinda sweet to see it die off now. mwaahahahahaaaaa.)

Any media that uses a codec that's not available to my 3 normal updated media apps and all those extra K-Lite codecs, well, they can bite my big shiny metal... I'm not gonna bother with them. (Hey comon', I'm old. I have the right to be cranky.) They can keep their DivX and xVid and all that other pr0n junk.

(Oh good, this isn't the hjt forum. I can actually post this! laugh.gif )
rridgely
Most videos on the net now just use flash. Either from youtube or some other site like it.
On the one hand its good because you dont have to bother with other programs besides a small flash download but on the other the videos are super compressed and look like crap.

Coronagold
And you're worried about compression because why? huh.gif Cheap videos are what they are because of the phone market. And what advance in tech did they have. Not much. But if video compression is on the top of your complaint list, you're lucky. And that's a good thing. wink.gif

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Talldog9
lord mulder's package installs smplayer which can play quicktime files.
Coronagold
I remember seeing that old guy jump from platform to falling platform in an excellent student video.
rridgely
QUOTE (Coronagold @ Apr 24 2008, 08:32 PM) *
And you're worried about compression because why?

I'm not watching stuff people shot with their cell phones. If you go on youtube you can find all kinds of real content(stuff like concerts, interviews, tv/news sections, ect).
Its nice to be able to watch stuff full screen without little artifacts everywhere or it being too blurry that you cant even make out what it is.


Talldog9
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Tom AZ
QUOTE (rridgely @ Apr 24 2008, 08:41 PM) *
On new installs I use VLC to view all media types that WMP wont play:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_vlc/

How do you think VLC compares with Media Player Classic?
rridgely
QUOTE (Tom AZ @ Apr 24 2008, 09:27 PM) *
How do you think VLC compares with Media Player Classic?


Their about the same as far as usage goes. I've never had any problems with either to be honest, they both play everything I ever watch flawlessly.(the older versions of VLC used to be kinda bad but its MUCH better now).

The pro to vlc is that it doesn't need codec packs which some people claim cause registry problems(never had that happen). However VLC doesn't play videos inside a web browser(or not easily) where as MPC does without any tweaking. Depends on how you watch videos I guess. I mostly watch stuff from revision3 or other videocasts and just download the high quality quicktime files.
Andavari
QUOTE (rridgely @ Apr 24 2008, 04:00 PM) *
Are you sure? I'm almost positive that they were pressed by apple to remove the quicktime part of their program. I have version 1.62 installed on one computer so I haven't tried the newer versions. tongue.gif

The last time I played a QuickTime .MOV file (a music video) from a recording label website it played it, and this was after they supposedly removed support for it.

About the legality of KLMPC I don't know because there's hordes of download sites that host it, and I'm not going to get into a debate of rather it's illegal or not.

I've tried VLC a couple of times and I've removed it shortly afterwards. If using the actual Apple QuickTime Player is the only legal way to play things like .MOV files, I'd gladly do without being able to play them because it's a bloated pos.
Andavari
QUOTE (Anthony A @ Apr 24 2008, 03:47 PM) *

Some of his points are correct, and others are off. And for the most part it doesn't help when legitimate download sites have it available and list it as freeware, so how is the general public going to know it's illegal to download and use it.

I'd personally like to find something different and may try out that ffdshow because I'm actually tired of KLMPC with all the stuff it installs. And for the fact that installing anything from official sources like DivX (whom have a rather slick looking player), or Apple QuickTime will result into one big jumbled mess forcing uninstallations and reinstallations, and for the fact it's updated far too often.
DennisD
My favourite play anything player is Mplayer. Plays just about anything, including .mov files.

MPlayer:

The above link includes a simple GUI frontend.

MPlayer Features:
Andavari
QUOTE (DennisD @ Apr 26 2008, 10:42 AM) *
My favourite play anything player is Mplayer. Plays just about anything, including .mov files.

Does it allow you to use DivX Web Player without the DivX Codec installed?
DennisD
QUOTE (Andavari @ Apr 26 2008, 05:06 PM) *
Does it allow you to use DivX Web Player without the DivX Codec installed?


According to the features page, DivX 4/5/6 are covered, as is Xvid and AVI.

Whenever I play any DivX movies in it, including part downloaded files, they load so quickly I'm reasonably sure that the DivX codec hasn't had time to be accessed, and the DivX icon doesn't appear in the system tray, so it's probably playing them with it's built in codecs.

Can't be more definitive than that, without uninstalling my DivX codec.


EDIT: Damn, I've just realised I've answered a question you didn't ask. wacko.gif

To the question you did ask, I've no idea, yet.
DennisD
To your DivX question. After removing the DivX codec, Yes.

I'll send you more details.
Talldog9
smplayer is the best frontend for mplayer i've found. developed in qt for cross platform(few probs w/ mac currently, fixes soon), very actively developed. Intends to be a complete frontend for mplayer, version "3" will feature transcoding via mencoder also.
I use this mplayer release, plus w32codecs.
Always use the unstable releases.
Icedrake
MPlayer doesn't work for me. Too complicated and I don't exactly like stand-alone stuff.
DennisD
"ERROR!, location not found". biggrin.gif I like that.
Icedrake
Thanks, and Dennis, I got MPlayer to work! It plays everything! Pretty amazing! happy.gif

Ok, I'm a little bit too excited now... Getting everything the way I wanted took some time though. MPlayer is well worth the download.
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