QUOTE (Icedrake @ May 7 2008, 03:43 PM)

Right now, Avira has been stuck in the update window for like 5 minutes. All it's saying is "checking file versions" and then "Connecting with
http://dl8.freeav.net What the heck is going on?

Their servers are notoriously slow. Try your updates at off hours. That was the one thing that kept me from Antivir but now I would rather put up with that than 70 MB of AVG 8 doing a Norton impression.