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JanRow
Hello I just intalled defraggler last night around 10:00pm and it is still running. I did the gerneral defrag to do the whole drive for the first time and I had 1,561 fragmented files with 7,075 total fragments. It's now 10:21am and I am at 847 fragmented files with 2,411 total fragments. Seems it's been over 12 hours to get half way through this process. Is there anyway to speed this up? I am also running it on a laptop and it goe into battery save mode when I am not working on it does this pause defraggler? I like the program so far because it is being so throgh but the time for it to take is way to long sad.gif

Also I would like to know if I pause or stop the program and reboot my system will defraggler pick up where it left off when i start the program again? As I don't want to have to go through another 12+ hours to start over.

Another suggestion or maybe you can tell me how to set it up is add a schedule to it so it can run in the background at a certain time once a week or something then the fragments might not get so big and it won't take so long.

Thanks Jan
CeeCee
Disable your real-time AV protection before starting to defrag. Yes, defrag can be very slow, if you defrag for the first time and your hard drive is heavily fragmented. Defrag your hard drive more often, once a month or once every few months, so it won't be heavily fragmented , and defragging will be much faster.
JanRow
QUOTE (CeeCee @ Jul 30 2008, 09:45 AM) *
Disable your real-time AV protection before starting to defrag. Yes, defrag can be very slow, if you defrag for the first time and you hard drive is heavily fragmented. Defrag your hard drive more often, once a month or once every few months, so it won't be heavily fragmented , and defragging will be much faster.



What do you mean about real time AV protection my protection is norton. I understand I needto defrag more often as I said earlier I just installed this program so its the first time for fragging the more often is a suggestion for the makers of the program to include a schedule system to it that runs in the background so you dont have to remember to frag more often. Plus all these fragmented files have accumulated in the last month as thats all the longer I have had my laptop. Therefore if I only ran the program once a month it would take just as long. So there has got to be another way to frag without it taking so long I would think.

Thanks Jan
CeeCee
QUOTE (JanRow @ Jul 30 2008, 02:50 PM) *
-What do you mean about real time AV protection my protection is norton.

-Therefore if I only ran the program once a month it would take just as long.

-Disable Norton AV real-time scanner.

-No it won't take that long. Files are now fragmented, because of programs installation. And after they are once defragged, defragging is faster.


JanRow
oh ok so shut down my norton and it should speed it up I will try that thanks for the input.

Jan
CeeCee
QUOTE (JanRow @ Jul 30 2008, 03:03 PM) *
shut down my norton and it should speed it up I will try that thanks for the input.

Yes it should. Or maybe even defrag in Safe Mode.
JanRow
should i turn off firewall protection too
CeeCee
QUOTE (JanRow @ Jul 30 2008, 03:06 PM) *
should i turn off firewall protection too

If you do that, unplug your internet cable. Or enable your Windows build-in firewall (before disabling 3rd-party FW).

If you boot to Safe-Mode, unplug then too, because it won't then load your 3rd-party FW drivers. It's good to defrag in Safe Mode, because less programs/drivers are then in use and CAN BE DEFRAGGED.
JanRow
oh ok i will leave it running then as I have wireless and dont really want to go through all the hassels with it. So basiclly just turn off the antivirus portion of norton
CeeCee
QUOTE (JanRow @ Jul 30 2008, 03:10 PM) *
So basiclly just turn off the antivirus portion of norton

Yes.

Btw, i personally use JKDefrag: http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/index.html
JanRow
one more ? what happens if i pause the program and reboot in safe mode and start it back up will it resume where it left off or will it start all over?
CeeCee
QUOTE (JanRow @ Jul 30 2008, 03:16 PM) *
one more ? what happens if i pause the program and reboot in safe mode and start it back up will it resume where it left off or will it start all over?

Not sure, but i think it will start all over. Those files you have already defragged, it should go fast over them.

Just disable/stop the Norton AV section. You don't have to stop Defraggler when doing it.
JanRow
k thanks but stopping norton av doesnt seem to speed it up any
CeeCee
QUOTE (JanRow @ Jul 30 2008, 03:47 PM) *
k thanks but stopping norton av doesnt seem to speed it up any

You just have to wait then. Next time will be faster.

Another tip: Remove all the temp files (using CCleaner) before starting to defrag. Here's more tips: http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/index.html /below the program snaphot)
jedgell233
Or a tip you can use is not use the latest defraggler lol. Just download an older one. My personal fav is 1.01 . As its one of the earlier versions before everything started getting bloaty and having useless wasted things added. So believe me, it will scan faster than the newest one. This has been the biggest gripe with me and many other fans of Defraggler. Which really how far can you update one? If it does its job just stick with it and leave it be. Someone somewhere though disagreed with that theory.
mikehimself
QUOTE (jedgell233 @ Aug 1 2008, 12:11 PM) *
Or a tip you can use is not use the latest defraggler lol. Just download an older one. My personal fav is 1.01 . As its one of the earlier versions before everything started getting bloaty and having useless wasted things added. So believe me, it will scan faster than the newest one. This has been the biggest gripe with me and many other fans of Defraggler. Which really how far can you update one? If it does its job just stick with it and leave it be. Someone somewhere though disagreed with that theory.

Hi.
Same Problem. I am using Defraggler for the first time on a 12GB partition with around 75% used space. The analysis showed 300 fragmented files and around 19,000 total fragments.
After 24 hours running, I am down to 155 fragmented files and just over 4,000 total fragments. The 'clock' is saying 30%. The process appears to be running slower and slower.

I find the numbers confusing.
If the 30% is to be believed, the process will take another 2 days.
If the number of frgmented files means anything, I am about half-way.
But if the number of remaining fragments is taken, then I am about 75% done.

Can anyone predict how long I will have to wait?

I have long suspected that the MS defragger isn't very good, but what is Defraggler doing that takes so long?

Will I see a significant improvement in performance?

What is the significance of the light-blue and dark-blue squares?

I have tried 3 times to post a reply to this forum and IE6 has crashed every time.
Seems to work ok with Opera.
YoKenny
Welcome mikehimself
QUOTE (mikehimself @ Aug 5 2008, 09:59 AM) *
I have tried 3 times to post a reply to this forum and IE6 has crashed every time.
That comes standard with IE6.

What operating system are you using?


mikehimself
QUOTE (YoKenny @ Aug 5 2008, 05:07 PM) *
Welcome mikehimself
That comes standard with IE6.

What operating system are you using?

Hi.
That was the least of my problems.

I have stopped Defraggler.
Restored XP to an earlier date.
Removed Defraggler.
Nothing happens now when I click on My Documents. But I can get to them via My Computer.
No other damage found (yet).
Tried Auslogic's defrag, which is very fast and pretty to look at, but doesn't appear to do anythiing extra.
Gone back to the MS defrag, which seems to be competent and works better if you run it more than once.
Who can you trust?

Farewell, Mike.


gigabayt
My defraggler stops when 1.2gb is left to defrag. It works hours with the same file, and sometimes it stops when you have over 1 gb left tio clean, so I defrag again.

Why?
davey
QUOTE (gigabayt @ Aug 16 2008, 06:51 AM) *
My defraggler stops when 1.2gb is left to defrag. It works hours with the same file, and sometimes it stops when you have over 1 gb left tio clean, so I defrag again.

Why?

Most probably some "bugs" to iron out.
Some debug logs would be helpful.
And some disk, system, OS info would also help.
smile.gif davey
Thanks for reporting.
gigabayt
QUOTE (davey @ Aug 16 2008, 11:08 AM) *
Most probably some "bugs" to iron out.
Some debug logs would be helpful.
And some disk, system, OS info would also help.
smile.gif davey
Thanks for reporting.



I'll later send you a video with defraggler tongue.gif
davey
QUOTE (gigabayt @ Aug 16 2008, 08:33 AM) *
I'll later send you a video with defraggler tongue.gif

No, we don't want any links to Videos.
You can supply logs and snapshots.
The link you put into your post may be considered Spam and treated as such.

smile.gif davey

gigabayt
QUOTE (davey @ Aug 16 2008, 01:49 PM) *
No, we don't want any links to Videos.
You can supply logs and snapshots.
The link you put into your post may be considered Spam and treated as such.

smile.gif davey


Okay, sorry sad.gif

19% is the limit when it defragmenting, then nothing happen. It just work without a result. It checks trough 1000 of files.
Andavari
QUOTE (gigabayt @ Aug 16 2008, 09:04 AM) *
19% is the limit when it defragmenting, then nothing happen. It just work without a result. It checks trough 1000 of files.

How long does it stay at 19% though?

You could possibly have a large fragmented file like a video, etc., that's taking a long time to complete. Then again if you have some other software running that may possible interfere, such as an anti-malware application resident shield.
gigabayt
It can stay there forever :/ Its just regular files it defrag right now. Change all the time but nothing change at Fragmented Files and Total Fragments.

Click to view attachment

As you see, it switch files, often windows files but the fragment statics don't move at all.
davey
QUOTE (gigabayt @ Aug 16 2008, 12:01 PM) *
It can stay there forever :/ Its just regular files it defrag right now. Change all the time but nothing change at Fragmented Files and Total Fragments.

Click to view attachment

As you see, it switch files, often windows files but the fragment statics don't move at all.

Hi gigabayt,
I have been using the latest version for testing purposes and just for single files or some files.
I have found that trying to get the whole drive defragmented seems to result in problems.
If the PC you are using is very important for your use or work, I would go back a couple of versions.
They are still ironing out problems it seems with too many or too large files.
This is based only my experience and not based on some sort of insider information as some people may think.
If you just stay away from System Volume files and don't select the "whole" drive at once it seems to work OK.
Has this been your experience ?
Defrag only the files that have a lot of fragments but not too big. If you don't have sufficient free space (say 20-30%)EDIT then do several files from the top number of fragments only and also several pages at the bottom of the list. This seems to work OK also.
Good luck,
smile.gif davey
P.S. I have several client/friends computers at my disposal but only a few that have multiple partitions. Those few are not as readily available as the others with single partitions.

Gigabayt, are you using multiple partitions ?
What is the relative free space available in the partition that you are having trouble with?
Are you running out of space in your C volume ? If so then you may have some work to do and need advice from some of our more experienced multi-partition users. You may get a better performance increase right now by using PageDefrag to defrag the locked system files which may be very defragmented.
If you have PageDefrag then run it and see if your System files are defragmented and run it if necessary.
You can get PageDefrag here and use it right away. You can also Run it live from the website(see upper right hand of Web page). These guys go out of their way to help us !!!
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb897426.aspx PageDefrag v2.32
By Mark Russinovich
denver_place2001
does it make any harm or good to my computer if i defragment my hard disk erery day?
davey
QUOTE (denver_place2001 @ Aug 18 2008, 02:21 AM) *
does it make any harm or good to my computer if i defragment my hard disk erery day?

Hello Denver,
Welcome to the forums. smile.gif
Good question and frequently asked.
See this link as it applies to MOST users.
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=111690

Defraggler is a very speedy "defragmenter" but I would recommend it's use to those who need to 'Defrag" specific files and those that don't mind the program maintenance required.
That is how I use it. I hardly ever need to do "whole drive" defragmenting anymore.
I use the Windows Disk Defragmenter to check or 'Analyze" and do "whole Drive" defragmentation only when advised by the WDD program.

Most users get by fine with WDD. No worries, no money and no maintenance. biggrin.gif Can't beat that for simplicity, which is what MOST users need and want. tongue.gif

If you are an average user, daily defragmenting is not beneficial at all.

Good luck,
smile.gif davey
Andavari
QUOTE (davey @ Aug 18 2008, 04:55 AM) *
Can't beat that for simplicity, which is what MOST users need and want. tongue.gif

Then check out this little Defraggler add-on. wink.gif
davey
QUOTE (Andavari @ Aug 19 2008, 03:41 AM) *

biggrin.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif I always did like beautiful Shells. tongue.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Great work !!! You just satisfied many, many requests. tongue.gif
smile.gif davey
schuck6566
QUOTE (davey @ Aug 18 2008, 04:55 AM) *
Hello Denver,
Welcome to the forums. smile.gif
Good question and frequently asked.
See this link as it applies to MOST users.
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=111690

Defraggler is a very speedy "defragmenter" but I would recommend it's use to those who need to 'Defrag" specific files and those that don't mind the program maintenance required.
That is how I use it. I hardly ever need to do "whole drive" defragmenting anymore.
I use the Windows Disk Defragmenter to check or 'Analyze" and do "whole Drive" defragmentation only when advised by the WDD program.

Most users get by fine with WDD. No worries, no money and no maintenance. biggrin.gif Can't beat that for simplicity, which is what MOST users need and want. tongue.gif

If you are an average user, daily defragmenting is not beneficial at all.

Good luck,
smile.gif davey
I was gonna try defraggler because I liked the results from CCleaner & Recuva, after reading some of these post, I think I'm gonna stick with IObits Smart Defrag. It seems to answer most of the problems raised in the forum, and it's free also. huh.gif
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